[MD] Where does logic itself belong inside the MOQ?

[skutvik at online.no]

Hi Andre

3 Jan. 

Bodvar before:
> Please give me hell on this point, I'm happy to be corrected. Will have
> to think some more on this issue. (about logic's place in the MOQ FYI) 

Andre:
> You gave the perfect pass so... . Are you going to tell me that the Law
> of logical equations (such as 1+1=2) was just sitting there, before
> everything...before the universe existed...minding its own
> business...and was then 'found' by some caveman who, upon 'seeing' this
> apparition, clubbed his neighbour to death, stole his wife (as it
> didn't make any sense)...both had a bit of fun...and then there was a
> little one...and our caveman started counting again...1+1=====3!!!
> 'Shit',he exclaimed, thoroughly confused, 'it still don't make sense.
> Guess I'm too young for this'.

Wish you would not take completely off, but that's Andre The Flying 
Dutchman ;-) As is my wont when I see some small fact that 
questions my former conviction I don't ask it to shut up and go away. 
Regarding logic itself (whereof 1+1=2 is the most simple example) I 
suggested to Steve that it may be the inorganic level itself - it's 
"carbon" one may say - but I am not finished with thinking about this 
yet. The inputs from Ron and Steve haven't been of much help . Your 
caveman example is unclear to me, the "... just sitting there, before 
everything .." point is what bothers me too. The 1+1=3 character, 
must be a ancient Ron Kulpstone.    

You added an afterthought:

> Final thoughts of our caveman Bodvar (life expectancy wasn't very high
> in those days), after he had fathered 17 children of which 3 had
> survived (and he still couldn't work it out); 'Those gods...they'll
> pull anything'.

Even more mysterious but I trust it means something to you.

Bodvar