[MD] Intellectual and Social

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Thu Jan 7 09:13:34 PST 2010


Hi John,

New England is beautiful and its winters are full of joy.  California is beautiful too.   


Marsha  








On Jan 7, 2010, at 11:08 AM, John Carl wrote:

> Perhaps it is foolish of me to assume that joy exists anywhere outside of my
> own sphere, Marsha, and yet sometimes, like the sun peeking through the
> clouds, I see signs of it.
> 
> But I'll take your word for it.
> 
> John
> 
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:33 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> John,
>> 
>> Let me rewrite that properly:
>> 
>> 
>> The promise of joy existing somewhere else is very foolish.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 7, 2010, at 5:30 AM, MarshaV wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> The promise of betterment existing someplace is very foolish.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2010, at 1:11 PM, John Carl wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Marsha,
>>>> 
>>>> I have to go work, but I'll sit down tonite and let my fingers fly over
>> the
>>>> passages promised.
>>>> 
>>>> In the meantime, to whet your appetite...
>>>> 
>>>> "in New England, if you are moody, you may wish to take a long walk out
>> of
>>>> doors, but that is not possible at or even at most seasons.  Nature may
>> not
>>>> be permitted to comfort you.  In California, unless you are afraid of
>> the
>>>> rain, nature welcomes you at almost any time.  The union of the man and
>> the
>>>> visible universe is free, is entirely unchecked by any hostility on the
>> part
>>>> of nature, and is such as easily fills one's mind with wealth of warm
>>>> experience.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Now I must feel that such tendencies are of vast importance, not merely
>>>> today, but for all time.  They are tendencies whose moral significance
>> in
>>>> the life of California is of course both good and evil, since man's
>>>> relations with nature are, in general, a neutral material upon which
>> ethical
>>>> relations may be based.  If you are industrious, this intimacy with
>> nature
>>>> mean constant cooperation, a cooperation never interrupted by frozen
>> ground
>>>> and deep snow.  If you tend to idleness, nature's kindliness may make
>> you
>>>> all more indolent, and indolence is a possible enough vice with the
>> dwellers
>>>> of all mild climates.  If you are morally careless, nature encourages
>> your
>>>> freedom."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mea Culpa,
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:09 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:12 PM, John Carl wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm reading Royce's history of California right now and boy does he
>> have
>>>>>> some interesting insight into the way an environment forms the
>> individual
>>>>>> and society.  Reading his description of the attitude you get from
>> living
>>>>> in
>>>>>> a place that isn't trying to kill you half the year is quite amazing.
>>>>> His
>>>>>> description fits me to a "T", and his contrast with the New England
>>>>>> Individualist and the California individualist made for some
>> fascinating
>>>>>> reading that I'm itching to share with Marsha.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lessee, it's gonna be 62 degrees today, I hope the rest of y'all are
>>>>> keeping
>>>>>> warm where you're at.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm interested.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>> 
>>>>> p.s.  The high temperature here today was 24-degrees.
>>>>> 
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