[MD] What Bo Doesn't Get

X Acto xacto at rocketmail.com
Fri Jan 8 21:11:30 PST 2010



[Xacto]
I think what Pirsig is attempting with the levels
is establishing a cultural point of beginning that holds
the most relevant meaning to his thesis in regard to
the term "intellect" . mainly the syllogism.
Nothing more....

[Krimel]
I certainly agree that the period in question is a critical one in human
history. It is universally regarded as the "cultural point of beginning" of
a great many things in the modern world. Mad props to you for diving into
Plato and Aristotle the way you have. But I would still argue that most
important contribution of the Greeks was not the syllogism but the proof. A
syllogism is just one form of proof. If we listen to Plato we might learn
how to figure out what is good. If we listen to Euclid we will be able to
build it; whatever it turns out to be.

Ron:
Yes sir, deductive reasoning is illustrated rather well with the mathematicians
no arguement there.I was refering to Aristotle specifically in context of Pirsigs
culturely defined notion of what we understand the term "intellectual" to mean.
In other words its the understanding of the origins of the meaning of the term
in our culture. So, it makes sense for clarities sake to simplify it to the 
generalized meaning we commonly take the term to mean in the context
of his thesis.
Keeps shit simple in common understandable terms that way.

Take what Pirsig does to the understanding and meaning of the word Quality.
He begins his concept on the expansion of how we commonly understand
the term.  This exansion on the meaning of this one term is essentially his
whole metaphysics.




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