[MD] Metaphysics

Andre Broersen andrebroersen at gmail.com
Sat Jan 9 08:13:22 PST 2010


Steve to Andre:
Stick around, or just check the archives. Bo indeed thinks that Pirsig
does not understand the MOQ which is absurd if the MOQ is the
philosophy of Robert M Pirsig.

Andre:
Hi Steve, I agree in the sense that Bodvar has stated that Mr. Pirsig
has 'watered down' the MoQ, has 'chickened out' to use a common
phrase, to make it more 'acceptable'  or palatable to (Western)
academia, for example by incorporating James' philosophy.

And I do intend to stay around, though of late, I must admit, I do
have a bit of a time convincing myself of the quality of this.

Bodvar sees revolution in the MoQ. This is an attitude and conviction.
To be honest ( as I always try to be) I do not share this fanaticism.
I think my history is simply different to Bodvar's. I am not going to
defend these parts of him. His static patterns are after
something...DQ ( paraphrasing Pirsig in LILA about Lila).

I do believe though that the MoQ has within itself the seeds of a
dramatic and radical change. Not only for the individual, but also on
a broader cultural level...it is so rich with innovation and creative
power.

I am not the type to shout from the rooftops. I rather like Pirsig's
heart, head and hands approach as outlined in ZMM. Especially
considering the context within which I find myself now, living and
working in China. One achieves only counter measures when one shouts
from the rooftops here...or anywhere else really.

Steve:
Pirsig has responded to Bo's SOL thesis several times and told him
that SOL is not what he means by the intellectual level. Bo is
frustrated that Pirsig does not recognize "the true MOQ" when he is
presented with it by Bo.

Andre:
I am aware of this Steve, aware of the annotations specifically
related to Bodvar's ( and Platt's) interpretations regarding the
intellectual level and LILA as a document. To be a bit more accurate
though, Pirsig did say that if it (the SOL) has any value, it will
percolate to the top.

If this is not an inverse of Reaganism I don't know what is.

As I concluded before, these are points to ponder...in the end one has
to follow one's source ...and this simply depends upon the extent to
which one is receptive to this... follow one's dharma.

As the Zen Buddhist saying goes: When you see the Buddha down the
street, kill him.

Kind regards
Andre



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