[MD] Music and the Moq

[Mary]

Hello Marsha, Bruce, Bo, and Joe,

It is probably because of music, art, and hypotheses that I so readily took
to the MoQ.  All these things seem to come from occasions of tapping into
Dynamic Quality.  No other explanation was ever as satisfying before the MoQ
came into my life.

Maybe it was even Pirsig in one of his books who pointed out the fact that
most great scientists cannot tell you where their hypotheses came from.
It's an old story, "I woke up in the middle of the night with this new idea,
it worked out, and I won the Nobel Prize".  The static world's highest
order, the Intellectual level, cannot create these things for us.  Beauty,
art, music, and totally new ideas come from somewhere, but not from
logically picking existing things apart.  Dynamic Quality has to exist,
there is no other explanation, imho.

- Mary
The most important thing you will ever make is a realization.  

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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Maurer
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:12 PM
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Subject: Re: [MD] Music and the Moq

On 1/2/10 6:39 PM, "Mary Clark" <marysonthego at gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
I have no idea how any of this relates to the MoQ, but you brought it up,
after all, and I'm beginning to think that is DOES. Why do we see Quality
in music constructed using the Western octave? Is this a learned response
or a fundamental TRUTH of the Universe? What's up with music anyway? Why
do we respond so profoundly to it?  Where did it come from?  Is it something
of the Biological Level?
<snip>

Hi Mary,

I¹m sorry I¹m so late getting back to you, and "I don¹t know" to all your
questions.

A whole metaphysics based in the musical octave?  WOW!  Logic:

Arithmetic, Algebra, Advanced Algebra, Geometry, Analytical Geometry,
Calculus, Advanced Calculus, Etc.

1+1=2, 1-1=0, 0-1=-1.  All the disciplines of mathematics sees 0 to be plus
and minus while being neither since it is 0.  Logic is breached in no
definition for 0 except a starting point.  Do, Re, Mi-Fa, Sol, La, Ti-Do
(Double the vibrations of the first Do).  1 has to be defined for logic to
be useful.  Music defines.  The definition is inconclusive.  From 1 to 0 is
1.  From 0 to -1 is -1.  Why does 1-1 = 0?  Why doesn¹t it= 2?

Music is the harmony of the spheres and IMHO the logic of the universe, and
the template for evolution.  And it can be beautiful!

Joe

> I have no idea how any of this relates to the MoQ, but you brought it up,
> after all, and I'm beginning to think that is DOES.  Why do we see Quality
> in music constructed using the Western octave?  Is this a learned response
> or a fundamental TRUTH of the Universe?  What's up with music anyway?  Why
> do we respond so profoundly to it?  Where did it come from?  Is it
something
> of the Biological Level?  


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