[MD] Metaphysics

[Ian Glendinning]

Bo asked ..

> 1) Is the DQ of MOQ's DQ/SQ something else than Quality?

Yes, they both comprise Quality, but DQ is the immediate quality
exprienced in the moment, whereas Quality also ends up fossilized in
various longer lived patterns.

> 2) If Pirsig said that Quality IS the DQ, will that alter anything?

Yes, but not problematically, just a definitional problem in what we
say static patterns comprise.

> 3) How do you manage to make the MOQ fit inside a smaller part of
> its own (the intellectual level) without violating the container logic.?

What ? No problem at all. It fits inside a strange loop - the MoQ
itself and the intellectual patterns representing it are different
categories. What container logic and which religious authority says it
must be complied with ? (Stop running away from discussions on better
logic Bo)

> 4) If there emerges a world view - a metaphysics - that claims that the
> MOQ is hogwash, is that still one of the countless possible
> descriptions of Quality?

In principle yes, but in practice anyone claiming that would have an
argument on their hands to modify their / our ideas. Ideas evolve,
Pirsig says so, and his MoQ supports that beautifully.

And as John said beautifully Bo, why do you want to cast the MoQ and
intellect in stone anyway. Let's have the courage of our convictions
that the MoQ can take its own medicine, and apply to itself, and not
build concrete defenses agains evolution.

Ian