[MD] Where does logic itself belong inside the MOQ?

[Ian Glendinning]

Empty space is part of that expanding universe.
The universe is not expanding "through" anything, not even emptiness.
The universe is that beyond which there is nothing - logically, by definition.

Ian

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Magnus Berg <McMagnus at home.se> wrote:
> Hi Craig
>
>> [ Mary]
>>>
>>>   What is beyond the edge of the Universe?
>>> This is what I want Pirsig to explain.
>>
>> If so, you are on a fool's errand.
>> Craig
>
> I wouldn't be so quick to judge.
>
> We know roughly how old the universe is and how large it is. We also know
> that it is expanding at an ever increasing rate. But into what? Does science
> have an answer to that? Nothingness?
>
> If it is "nothingness", then this nothingness gives way to the somethingness
> that is the universe when it is expanding. But then we have somehow
> incorporated the nothingness into our reality, and we have also expanded the
> universe to infinity. But only a part of that universe is the somethingness
> in which we and other stuff can exist.
>
> If the expanding universe is *not* replacing some other stuff occupying the
> space that it is expanding into, then you need to explain how that is done.
> That would be a completely new process to science, right?
>
> I can go on for quite a while longer, but what I want to say is that the
> question is far from foolish. At the very least, it will result in another
> question.
>
>        Magnus
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