[MD] [Bulk] Awareness of Quality

Ham Priday hampday1 at verizon.net
Sat Jan 16 03:38:08 PST 2010


Mark & Marsha --


[Steve]:
> Perhaps the first step is to ask individuals to consider
> if there is a question to be asked regards to quality.
> That is how Pirsig got there. He used the notion of
> quality to achieve his personal world view. Through
> this he then grew that into a systematic representation
> of quality.
>
> 1. Underlying everything is their quality.

[Marsha]:
> Don't you think the first step would be to get individuals
> to consider there is a question to be asked in regards to reality?

For what it is worth from one of two alleged screed-writers on this forum, I 
applaud both of these suggestions.  With all due respect to RMP, we might 
also consider whether "quality" is really the best term for our awareness of 
this reality.

--Ham



On Jan 16, 2010, at 3:28 AM, markhsmit wrote:

> Hi,
> It appears to me that many in this post have an awareness
> of Quality. The MoQ serves to transfer our personal awareness
> through words and logic and references to another. Once such
> an awareness is captured, then it becomes subjective. It does
> not then rely on the objective transfer, but becomes internalized
> as a new view. At that point it becomes separate from the discussion
> which preceded it. Many of us are trying to impart (or infect) that 
> personal
> awareness, each in our own way. The result is, hopefully, a consensus
> on the best way to impart it to others. It is not so much whether one
> view is right or wrong, but whether one method is more effective
> than another.
>
> I can sense the frustration by some when others do not get their
> awareness, when the relator uses the method by which they
> achieved it ("how can you not get it?!"). It is difficult when one
> tries to impart a non-intellectual realization with words. Some
> philosophies tend to be easier to assimilate. This may be a
> measure of the reality of the metaphysics itself. In some cases
> only a small number of like minded individuals share a common
> awareness. In other cases a large number get it. If truth is in
> numbers, perhaps it is the vector being used not the subject
> itself that matters.
>
> If MoQ is to become a pandemic, maybe simpler and less wordy
> concepts should be used. I see a big difference
> between ZAMM and Lila in terms of such infection. Why is
> that? Does Lila get too far away from the truth? If an understanding
> of reality using the concept of Quality is indeed the most
> efficient method for creating reality awareness, perhaps it
> should be simplified. The twelve steps of achieving an
> awareness of the world through MoQ.
>
> Do we expect Quality to be the right method of imparting
> the awareness of reality?
>
> Mark





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