[MD] Where does logic itself belong inside the MOQ?

[John Carl]

Ok, I like that one, Ron.  I vote yours.  Experience is the edge of the
known universe.  Science is on a fool's errand and it's losing it's "edge".




On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 7:52 AM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> Some may say that human experience is the edge of the universe
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ian Glendinning <ian.glendinning at gmail.com>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 6:18:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Where does logic itself belong inside the MOQ?
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> Empty space is part of that expanding universe.
> The universe is not expanding "through" anything, not even emptiness.
> The universe is that beyond which there is nothing - logically, by
> definition.
>
> Ian
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Magnus Berg <McMagnus at home.se> wrote:
> > Hi Craig
> >
> >> [ Mary]
> >>>
> >>>   What is beyond the edge of the Universe?
> >>> This is what I want Pirsig to explain.
> >>
> >> If so, you are on a fool's errand.
> >> Craig
> >
> > I wouldn't be so quick to judge.
> >
> > We know roughly how old the universe is and how large it is. We also know
> > that it is expanding at an ever increasing rate. But into what? Does
> science
> > have an answer to that? Nothingness?
> >
> > If it is "nothingness", then this nothingness gives way to the
> somethingness
> > that is the universe when it is expanding. But then we have somehow
> > incorporated the nothingness into our reality, and we have also expanded
> the
> > universe to infinity. But only a part of that universe is the
> somethingness
> > in which we and other stuff can exist.
> >
> > If the expanding universe is *not* replacing some other stuff occupying
> the
> > space that it is expanding into, then you need to explain how that is
> done.
> > That would be a completely new process to science, right?
> >
> > I can go on for quite a while longer, but what I want to say is that the
> > question is far from foolish. At the very least, it will result in
> another
> > question.
> >
> >        Magnus
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