[MD] Intellect's Symposium
Matt Kundert
pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 17 14:44:28 PST 2010
Hi Dave,
Dave said:
For me that makes the problem even more difficult.
Biological evolution by natural selection at least has a
well defined theory with dedicated scientists/philosophers
working on it. Evolution, unfolding, at the physical, social,
and intellectual levels really don't have any evolutionary
theories per se let alone people exploring them from that
POV.
Matt:
For me to rightly assess the level of difficulty you perceive
in these kinds of exploration, I think it would turn on
what you perceive as a good "theory."
To my mind, a general framework for perceiving cultural
evolution is supplied well by Richard Rorty when he
analogizes cultures to what Wittgenstein meant by
lebensform (forms of life), and says that, just like in
Darwinian biological evolution, forms of life kill each other
off as the outlive their ability to survive. I don't see the
problem in having a big view like that, and then taking
the individual disciplines as marking out different little
pieces in the big picture.
For instance, why did the epic, as a literary genre, die? A
short answer would be that the epic was a form of
narrative that grew in response to humans needing a
manner in which to store knowledge. In oral cultures,
since nothing could be written down, knowledge was
_literally_ what you could remember, and so we can
explain the epic's use of narrative, epithetic formula,
heroes, gods, and archetypal thematics as instruments
for "storing" knowledge (with its increased ease of recall).
The epic began to die when writing came on the scene
and written prose took on it's cultural storage function.
With that gone, poets began to experiment and found the
epic boring, and moved beyond it. Nobody goes back to it
partly because of not needing its noetic function, partly
because poetry and literature generally became rooted in
the search for technical novelty (also rooted in the
creation of writing), but partly because of other cultural
transformations that began afterwards, like our changing
sense of what a "god" is. That's why Milton wrote the last
epic. The epic couldn't survive in our cultural climate now
that we have other ways of storing knowledge, and other
attendant beliefs about what poets should be doing.
That's just a small story about one little blip on the
cultural screen, and it uses a lot of different kinds of
resources from different disciplines (anthropology, literary
history, archaeology, media studies). For my money, we'll
just get better at integrating little stories like this, and we
need no bigger theory to house them than Rorty's
extrapolation of the Darwinian theory of natural selection
to human artifacts (both physical and cultural).
Do you see a different kind a problem at the level of
theory, or are you just thinking of this kind of current
stratification of disciplines? (What you said later
suggests the latter to me.)
Matt
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