[MD] Metaphysics

[Krimel]

[Mark]
What I meant with the sun is that it is hot only because we have defined
hot in such a way.  The sun is hot, it is hot because it is the sun.  It is
a closed circle.  It can be made very complicated with endless sets
of references to other things thus creating a mosaic.  But this does
not result in truth, only convention.

[Krimel]
"The sun is hot, it is hot because it is the sun." Is circular reasoning and
is a fallacy pretty much anyway you look at it. Conventions are always in
the process of negotiation. Discourse of any kind is usually about the
negotiation of meaning and seeking agreement on conventions.