[MD] Are theists irrational?

[ARLO J BENSINGER JR]

[Mark]
OK, we are not speaking the same language.  In my language, creationism was
created by the intellect.

[Arlo]
"Creationism" was an attempt to turn a social pattern of thought into an
intellectual pattern of thought. 

[Mark]
Science is intellect masquerading as high Quality.

[Arlo]
Science is an intellectual pattern. It does not need to masquerade as what it
already is. Are there low Quality intellectual patterns? Sure. Pirsig's central
condemnation is that S/O intellectual patterns are of low Quality.

[Mark]
Why would the intellect place itself above all else?

[Arlo]
I believe regarding the formulation of the MOQ it was Pirsig would placed
intellect at the top of the static hierarchy. 

[Mark]
Oh, I forgot, you claim that science is not a belief, somehow it is real.  How
did that happen?

[Arlo]
Science is an intellectual pattern. It is not "faith-based" as is "theism". I
have no idea what you mean by "real", but I don't recall making any such claim.
Both intellectual patterns (science) and social patterns (theism) are static
patterns of value. 

[Mark]
I remember the PC discussion.  We can agree to disagree.

[Arlo]
Of course.