[MD] Re Proposed solution to SOL/Intellectual level

[Andre Broersen]

Mary to Andre:
But SOM needs symbol manipulation to exist, and Pirsig says symbol
manipulation IS the Intellectual Level.  If we go with that, then SOM
is contained within the Intellectual Level, but does not define it,
thus disagreeing with Bo.

Andre:
Desparately running behind in my reactions Mary..apologies. You are
correct and I am thankful that you and others have pointed to (and
explained) my error. Perhaps my emotions got the better of me in terms
of wanting to 'force' an integration of the SOL with the MoQ.
It cannot be done. Intellect as part of the S/O aggregate is a Western
cultural phenomenon.

Mary:
Why do you say you are "with Bodvar on this one"?

Andre:
I have taken leave of Bodvar's position regarding the universality of
intellect as the S/O logic.Or, for that matter, that S/O logic is the
only pattern to have made it into the intellectual level. Or to turn
this around, that the intellectual level only 'contains' S/O logic.
Within the MoQ it doesn't make sense. The 'evidence' between the
Oriental intellectual developments and (different) Western
intellectual developments bear witness to this. That's why Mr. Pirsig
doesn't understand Bodvar's conclusion and has little 'faith' in
it..apart from a possible percolation- to --the- top effect....if it
has value.

I am not suggesting that this clears up other matters but sometimes it
is good to just step away from the MoQ sometimes, take a breath, just
stare at the thing once in a while and refocus.

Thanks Mary, I enjoy your posts.

Kind regards
Andre