[MD] The MOQ Conundrum

skutvik at online.no skutvik at online.no
Fri Jan 22 00:05:26 PST 2010


Hi Platt.

20 Jan. you asked: 

How do we deal with this MOQ conundrum?

Experience arises from a reality created by experience.

One answer. "Ignore it. Perhaps it will go away."
 
I think this conundrum is created by Pirsig's Quality/MOQ meta-
metaphysics. 

In ZAMM he saw Quality (DQ) as the origin of subjects and objects 
(SOM the only static level at that stage). Then LILA, but here he 
started with his Quality=Reality obsession as if managing to prove it 
that would complete his mission. This made the DQ of MOQ 
something else than QUALITY - an irrelevant static by-product -  
hence the Quality//MOQ atrocity. 

If he had dropped the impossible task of proving an axiom*) and 
just continued ZAMM's good work in LILA by enlarging the proto-
moq the known way with inorganic value the first fall-out and 
intellect the last (=the S/O as in ZAMM) all this mumbo-jumbo 
would have been avoided. 

*) There is no proof for Quality, but there are countless indications 
for the dynamic/static split being better than the subject/object one.
 
Steve:
> > In the MOQ, rather than experience arising from reality or vice
> > versa, experience is equated with reality.

Why not just:say that static experience arises from dynamic 
experience? That's the MOQ message.   


Bodvar











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