[MD] Choosing Chance

[Andre Broersen]

Arlo to Steve:
I guess we just disagree about this

Fair enough.

"Never say never."

Andre:
Hi guys, I have put my two bob's worth in sometimes but you chose to
ignore it, which is fine. The points you are discussing however have
value.

I'll repeat my summary and ask you to respond ( unless you consider
this thread to be a dead end):
Steve's position seems to be: freedom is expressed in the choice of
that which is given...the broccoli icecream or something else.
Arlo's position seems to be: freedom is experiencing that which has
not been given...yet.

As I mentioned in a previous post, our Western culture prides itself,
and finds the highest expression of freedom to be : to choose among
those things that are given...... which appears to me to be the most
wonderful expression of un-freedom.

As Theodore Wisengrund Adorno once said: "Freedom is never given, yet
always threatened'.

I really am surprised to read that 95 percent of Americans ( I do not
know if this is true so please correct me) living in the most
democratic and free country on this earth believe in God.
Is the freedom contained within the choice Steve espouses perhaps not
so  (spiritually) fulfilling? To wit: is Western freedom really
unfreedom and we are deluding ourselves?

>From an 'outsider's' point of view asking an insider's point of view..

Andre