[MD] Intellect's Symposium

David Thomas combinedefforts at earthlink.net
Sat Jan 23 00:48:03 PST 2010


Hi Bo,

You sly old fox. You realize I have been away from this for several years
and am seriously rusty. Driving back from a nice barbeque ( High 60's today
unusual even for here) with my daughter and suddenly it struck me. Back "in
the good old days" when I first joined, knew next to nothing about
philosophy, ZaMM/Lila, or debate strategies I used to watch you constantly
frustrate all comers. (and still do) Then it dawned on me what I had picked
up from watching but totally forgotten. You were always very careful about
the points you chose to respond to and when answering always stayed focused
on your message. 

RMP, a college writing teacher with a "master" degree in rhetoric uses three
straight forward English language words: intelligence-intellect
-intellectual and you deny that he is using them properly and/or maintain
the definitions are either wrong or misguided. Bold moves.

You cannot be an intellectual prior to having an intellect.
You cannot have an intellect prior to having intelligence.
Having an intellect does not make you an intellectual.
Some degree of intelligence is required all along the way.

Just like evolution proto-man/the shrew ,much as he may have like to, didn't
get to skip over the dinosaur era they he had to keep burrowing for eons.

But my suspicion that this is all a farce was finally was confirmed with
this reply to Platt.

> In ZAMM he saw Quality (DQ) as the origin of subjects and objects
> (SOM the only static level at that stage). Then LILA, but here he
> started with his Quality=Reality obsession as if managing to prove it
> that would complete his mission. This made the DQ of MOQ
> something else than QUALITY - an irrelevant static by-product -
> hence the Quality//MOQ atrocity.

Your position on the MoQ is you like nothing at all about it. Not DQ/SQ
split or relationship, not the arrangement of SQ, not the relationship of SQ
to subject and objects,not the tie to radical empiricism, pragmatism, and
the list goes on.  Of course that is solely your decision and it may be a
good one.

And you came to this decision what maybe 10 years ago I'd guess?

In plain English, you could give a shit about the MoQ you're here for the
debate. Have fun.

You won again.

Dave





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