[MD] Science and Scientism

[markhsmit]

Hi Ian,
>From your response, I get the notion that somehow
faith is somehow a bad thing.  I am not sure where
you derive this opinion from.  Somehow if science
is faith-based it is worse.  I am not sure of what
yardstick you are using.  Let me put it this way:
Our understanding is a function of neuronal
connections in our brains that make patterns.
These patterns result as we interact with the
environment.  One can state that some of these
patterns are better than others, but then one has
to have a reason why.  From the outside they just
appear as patterns of different kinds.  These things
are only real in our heads, there is no absolute
measure.  The fact that you would consider this to
be extreme just points to a deep seeded faith which
cannot be questioned.

It is fine to believe that some things are better than
others, but that is just an opinion, just as my saying
this is just an opinion.  It is also fine to disagree,
and I have no problem who reads my posts.  The
worst thing however is to righteously put one's
head in the sand.

IMHO, of course,
Mark
Mark, inserted ... (Arlo mentioned)

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:18 AM, markhsmit <markhsmit at aol.com> wrote:
> Hi Ian,
>
> I believe that everything should be questioned.
[IG] I don't actually. I believe everything should be open to question
... but constant questioning and criticism to the exclusion of more
creative & synthetic pursuits is bad news. Creation needs insuating
from criticism until viable patterns come into play. Evolution would
get nowhere if our policy was to kill ever germ at conception. People
need moral policy in their questioning too.

> Even science as
> a faith.  Its view seems to be so accepted that it is abused.
> I am not sure what faith-based means, in my view it is
> all faith.  None of it is bad.
[IG] This is why I'm unlikely to read any of your material Mark. That
is too extreme to be credible . Science is not ALL faith by any
stretch of the imagination. I do plug away at science's blind-spots to
faith-based aspects, but Arlo is right to react to your extreme
position. None of "x" is bad - is an equally ludicrous extreme too.
Some thing ARE better than others - that's the whole point.
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