[MD] What does Pirsig mean by metaphysics?

[John Carl]

> John:
> > I thought the MoQ said Quality is indefinable.  Definitionally so!
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> Jeez are you determined to drive me nuts?


Jeez Bo, you keep asking me that.  The answer is "no" but somehow it just
naturally happens.  Sorry!



> DQ is dynamic which
> means every adjective of ineffable there are, but in this dynamic
> medium there has formed static patterns. Like waves on the ocean
> surface or currents deep down can be discerned,yet being "ocean"
> (water) all the same. Now don't start objecting to this, it's a metaphor.
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Object?  Moi?  I'm opposed to Objectivism.

I believe Quality is ineffable, but you can eff DQ.  It's the apprehension
of Quality, in the moment.  I've analogized DQ as the pull toward the Good,
by the individual in the moment.  This "seems" right to me.  I've pushed it
for a while, and never gotten one good refutation to it and so for the time
being, "Ah'm stickin' to ma guns".



> SOM robbed of its metaphysical rank  (during a ceremony in front of
> the MD) and the remnant S/O relegated the role of MOQ intellectual
> level surely makes the subject/object slice valuable, the highest static
> such. But I meant a different metaphysics from the DQ/SQ one.
>

Hmmm.  That is a tough one.  The DQ/sq split realization means its hard now
to picture my experience any other way.  I can strain and see the rabbit in
the moon, or the face because either way is "equally good" in pragmatic
terms.  But I can't picture reality except by the best realization I've got.
 It's tough to turn back the clock on a fundamental realization of being.





> John now:
> > Maybe I should say equating "unpatterned" with "something" is
> > fallacious thinking.
>
> True! DQ is dynamic that's all that can be said.



Well, not to drive you crazy, but I can probably say more than that.
 Whether what I say about Quality HAS any Quality is an issue, but sometimes
one just has to keep practicing.

Interpretation is an infinite process.

Infinitely yours,

John




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> Nature is what we call "the static inorganic level and chaos is absent
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