[MD] Intellect's Symposium

[MarshaV]

Yes, Mark, you description rings true.  There's a little tension in not picking up the train of though, but it feels precious. 




On Jan 27, 2010, at 3:24 AM, markhsmit wrote:

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> Marsha,
> I have an inkling of what you are talking about since I get something
> similar.  Sometimes I can induce it if I remember the feeling.  This
> feeling is one of extreme clarity and extreme relief and joy.  If I do
> not question it, it can last.  However, I do not feel like doing much
> else at that point except staring at things.  Perhaps its a state of mind
> as you suggest, that is no thoughts just awareness.  However, not that
> I am religious or anything, but I feel like everything makes sense even
> though I'm not really thinking.  Like you say, it is not something I chase
> like a drink or drug, but something that I know is there.
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> OK so much for my idiosyncrasies, back to figuring IT out...
> 
> Mark
> 
> xacto,
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> Oh what the heck, if you can't be honest enough to risk your credibility now and then, why bother to speak? I accept your duh. 
> 
> 
> Marsha 
> 
> 
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> On Jan 26, 2010, at 10:21 PM, X Acto wrote:
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>> Duh
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>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 3:04:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] Intellect's Symposium
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>> John,
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>> I'm not a religious person and have no idea what a religious experience would be. 
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>> For weeks it felt like something was going to happen, like my mind was squinting, or something, and then it happened. It was visual. I was seeing but their were no thoughts in my head, but I was aware. It was seeing, but not seeing anything. It lasted about 5 minutes, no less, but I don't know for sure. I was flabbergasted because it was so obvious. OMG, unpatterned experience!!! Or, OMG I was totally aware without thinking. And then I began not to believe my own experience, so I did on my own. Naturally, I was excited. The next day I did it again of my own volition. I was overjoyed, of course. It was wonderful. It was amazing. I tried it again about a week later, and made it happen, but I haven't tried it since, which is sad. Life interfered, or more probably I'm lazy and ungrateful. But it was "real". Yet it's no big deal; it's what naturally happens. I guess. Oh, I don't know; I don't know anything. 
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>> I do not often enough sit in meditation, but do try to keep a mindfulness throughout my day. I think there is a relationship, but I'm guessing. I had a very formal meditation practice for a few years and was able to watch my thoughts. I have no trouble saying that's watching patterns flicker through mind, and that is why I go on about Quality (unpatterned experience and patterned experience); both have been experienced.
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>> Maybe you'll think I have just described indigestion. Maybe if I hadn't had such experiences I'd think the same thing.
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>> unMarsha
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