[MD] What does Pirsig mean by metaphysics?

Andre Broersen andrebroersen at gmail.com
Thu Jan 28 08:51:14 PST 2010


Bodvar to Dave T:

Course I reject empiricism,

If experience is the world "out there" reaching us by our senses  and
"our thinking"  is another realm this sounds uncannily like SOM

Andre:
No wonder then Bodvar, but the thing is that we are the patterns.
There is no world 'out there' as separate from our own world 'in
here'.

You seem to desparately hang on to this fallacy because you want to
stake a SOL claim here. Claiming you can only reach this 'insight'
after you have gone through the SOL acceptace. And those that haven't
you seem to condemn as backward and wooly.

The MoQ is about DQ/SQ as you well know. How you keep on dragging
things back to this S/O intellectual level is based on your denial of
empiricism, the name for 'direct experience' which is the name for...
.

'The name that can be named is not the eternal name'.

'Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans'

'Everytime I put my finger on it, it slips away'.

Andre



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