[MD] The difference between a Monet and a finger painting

[Arlo Bensinger]

[Dave]
The problems inherent in tying "subject" to "agency" diminish or at 
least are more apparent under a value based system. Although is 
sounds weird where value exists so does agency to some tiny degree.

[Arlo]
Yes. In fact, I think the very idea of the human as the lone "agenic 
subject" in a cold, mechanistic "objective" cosmos is what the MOQ 
proposes to overcome. By introducing value (and hence agency) all the 
way down to quarks, Pirsig offers a cosmos vibrant and alive, one in 
which man's agency has evolved along some manner of continuum that 
stretches from her/him all the way down to the fabric of the most 
rudimentary and early patterns. The MOQ levels can easily be seen as 
broad levels of agency.