[MD] Intellect's Symposium

[John Carl]

Mary,



> Since a level is defined as a set of patterns of value which evolved from
> the previous level (Social here); and the key distinction between any level
> and its parent is that it took on a life of its own, then most proposals
> about what the Intellectual Level is do not fit.


I think your definition of level is off.  Bottom-up creation doesn't make
any sense.  Take the founders of America - as a society.  The social
patterns created were a reflection of intellectual ideas.  It's not like a
bunch of people showed up on New England's shore and said, "hey, let's try
the idea of freedom".  What happened was that the people who had in their
being an intellectual pattern of a free society had to take that idea over
the sea and make it happen.

Likewise, biologically babies come from a social arrangement and inorganic
matter is reformulated and patterned creatively by life.  I know it's been
taught in schools and on this forum that complexity arises from randomness,
but I'm hoping that some people can see the ridiculousness of the MorOnist
cult and rise above by getting pulled from above.


John