[MD] The difference between a Monet and a finger painting

[markhsmit]

On Jan 30, 2010, at 1:33:36 PM, "Ham Priday" <hampday1 at verizon.net> wrote:

Finally, if (as I believe) the physical universe is a construct of man's 
value-sensibility, its order, design and dynamics are representative 
phenomena of human intelligence, in which case the terms "randomness" and 
"determinism" are meaningless. For, if we cannot predict what the future 
will bring, how can we possibly know that our "free choices" are not 
predetermined?

Hi Ham,
I know you have stated the above before.  But, for whatever reason, 
something clicked.  Although this may not be what you are talking 
about, when I look at the interface between my (man's) brain/body,
and what is outside, there is creation at work.  We could say that
this is man-made mind.  We actually perceive so little of the physical 
universe, which at our level of sensibility actually appears solid
(while it is not).  So, I do agree with you (at least I agree with what 
I understand you to say), that our perception of reality is our
creation.  It has to be.  Now, this is not new to me, as all along
I have been firm in my commitment in that our belief systems,
whatever they are, are personal creations.  I have brought our
infatuation with science into that same subjective belief.  So,
perhaps we are closer than thought.  I have trouble with the word
Essence, possibly because I am looking for something, which
I believe would be impossible.

However, having said that, I would still posit that each and everything
thing and cluster of things, also creates it's own reality by its own
perception.  That is from a neutrino to a supernova.  These are
not human perceptions, but there is nothing special about 
my bag of chemicals. there can't be, unless we are somehow
special.  Of course, you wouldn't be the first person to say that.

Cheers,
Mark