[MD] grmbl

[John Carl]

I also recommend www.sahtouris.com to you Platt, for this debate is at the
heart of her presentation.

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Platt Holden <plattholden at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >From Merriam-Webster: "collectivism -- 1 : a political or economic theory
> advocating collective control especially over production and distribution;
> also : a system marked by such control"
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> In other words, communism/socialism, opposed to individual rights, also
> condemned by Pirsig for blocking DQ. .
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She says very plainly, that cells in a body would not be successful at what
they do if they did not server their own self interest!

But from this self interest, they serve the whole in a dance of negotiation
which is productive of the bigger picture and life itself.  She says the
soviet system failed to encourage this self interest of their cells, and
thus collapsed; and the west fails to encourage the communal interest and is
headed for collapse.

You need both for life.

A very Roycean polemic.  I recommend her highly.

John Carl, done with lunch and back to work (and listening to my radio)