[MD] Reading & Comprehension

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John,
My experience of Krimel is that he understands the final analysis
but being a "techie" or "motorhead" from where I come from,
lends itself to reduction. It keeps betterness from getting too
warm fuzzy and idealized. Because what do we mean when
we say the dynamic is "better"? 
Having kicked it about for some time, I think we mean that it IS.

For is it better to be than not to be?

Now understanding this as a type of randomness is accurate but understanding
it as a kind of contained randomness, now thats getting closer. Understanding
that randomness being contained by attractions, more still.

Some argue that our very being is an excercise of limit. 

This idea is the basis for the ancient Greek theories of form.
The form of the good or  is understood as the form in which all other goods
emerge from. The good of being.

Limit,the excercising of preffernce in randomness,the good,Limit, the basis of measure,
the art of measure is the art of the good. Arete.

Ratio, to divide, to measure, is the basis for the word ration, which extends to rational.
This is why the Pathogoreans believed the art of mathematics and number was divine.

But that took off on a purpose of it's own.

The art of measure, is the art of value judgements, that on which we are prepared to act
apon, is the art of living.
Socrates, speaks alot about what makes one way of practicing this art better than the other.
What does living a good life mean?
He enumerates the biological,social and intellectual benefits of endeavoring in such a fashion,
These benefits are reason enough for pursing it.


-Ron


 


----- Original Message ----
From: John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 3:37:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Reading & Comprehension

So I see why Marsha was always whining "I miss Krimel".


On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Krimel <Krimel at krimel.com> wrote:

[Krimel]
> Quality is undefined.
>
> DQ and SQ are concepts we use to talk about it. They are definitions and
> they are both definable and specifiable. In fact the biggest problem I have
> with the AWGIs is their insistence that DQ is "betterness". DQ, change, can
> be disastrous. In fact disaster is a form of DQ. Even the Jews got this
> point. In Isaiah it is written: "I form the light, and create darkness: I
> make peace, and create evil, saith the Lord.
>
>

And the biggest problem I have with moronists is thinking that randomness
explains anything.

Tho I appreciated your penny-flipping attempt.

Betterness isn't always apparent to the patterns being interrupted.  You
have to take the larger view.

And that's the key difference between a moronist and an awgi, the moronist
takes the tiny reductionist view, creating reality out of a random bits of
nothing, and the awgi sees the big picture.  For the bigger picture IS
betterness in the final analysis.

John the final analyzer
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