[MD] Reading & Comprehension

[Ham Priday]

Hey, Craig --

 [Ham, previously]:
> If we and our objective world were not divided-- 
> if everything were one "aggregated mass"--where would we
> find order, beauty, love, excellence, morality, joy, challenge,
> or inspiration?  Indeed, there would be no values, let alone
> an intellect to comprehend them.
>
> Am I wrong, or has the author of the MoQ missed
> something essential in his effort to reduce reality to a quality
> hierarchy?

[Craig]:
> No, each of these is accounted for in the MoQ hierarchy.

You challenged the statement in my last post that "nothing comes into 
existence without a creator" on semantic grounds.  As you accepted the 
premise that "nothing is created without a creator," I
assumed that "coming into existence" had some special meaning for you, such 
as a value construct or "pattern" that is secondary to Creation.

I won't let you off the hook so easily on this statement, however.  Either 
you deny that all "value patterns" are relative (which I find hard to 
believe), or you somehow identify the values I've enumerated in the four 
levels of the Quality hierarchy.  Perhaps you view the experience of "order" 
and "excellence" as intellectual patterns, and "morality" and "inspiration" 
as emotional (social/ biological?) POVs.

It seems clear to me that 'agape' or the sense of wonder, which directly 
induces the emotional states of love, desire, inspiration, and joy are human 
value responses, notwithstanding any biological or social involvement. 
Since Mr. Pirsig has not specifically defined these values or localized them 
"by level" in the hierarchy, I'd be interested to know how you account for 
them.

Thanks, Craig.
--Ham