[MD] The Greeks?

Andre Broersen andrebroersen at gmail.com
Sat Jun 5 22:43:33 PDT 2010


Mary to Steve:

What's left that could expand the Intellectual Level to something greater
than SOM?

Andre:
Hi Mary, Steve. Rationality is of course part of the intellectual level and Mr. Pirsig describes this as a traditional, conventional rationality. ZMM is about Phaedrus' quest and his endeavour at arguing for a 'root expansion' of rationality. I think that the MOQ IS this 'root expansion' and since the MOQ is an intellectual pattern of value this expansion is also part of the intellectual level.

(This is a view rejected by Bodvar who refuses to acknowledge that the MOQ is an intellectual pattern of value and to argue the nonsense that the MOQ is out of SOM and his own warped understanding then necessitates the MOQ 'emerging' from SOM and heralding a new level).

'Phaedrus spent his entire life pursuing a ghost. That was true. The ghost he pursued was the ghost that underlies all of technology, all of modern science, all of Western thought. It was the ghost of rationality itself'.


'...the whole structure of reason, handed down to us from ancient times, 
is no longer adequate. It begins to be seen for what it really 
is...emotionally hollow, aesthtically meaningless and spiritually empty'.

'So I guess what I'm trying to say is that the solution to the problem 
isn't that you abandon rationality but that you expand the nature of 
rationality so that it's capable of coming up with a solution'.

'We're living in topsy-turvy times, and I think that what causes the 
topsy-turvy feeling is inadequacy of old forms of thought to deal with 
new experiences. I've heard it said that the only real learning results 
from hang-ups, where instead of expanding the branches of what you 
already know, you have to stop and drift laterally for a while until you 
come across something that allows you to expand the roots of what you 
already know.Everyone's familiar with that. I think the same thing 
occurs with whole organizations when expansion is needed at the roots'.

'Now I want to show that that classic pattern of rationality can be 
tremendously improved, expanded and made far more effective through the 
formal recognition of Quality in its operation'.

So I would suggest Mary that the MOQ is the expansion of the 
Intellectual Level that is greater than SOM.

For what it is worth.



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