[MD] until death do us part

[MarshaV]

Hi John,  

I like the story, but I like all your stories.  

At first I thought a discussion concerning Tipper and Al a bit stupid too.  
I agree; who cares?  But it seems that the statistics point, not to the men 
buying themselves a new trophy wife, but to the women wanting the 
divorce, 60 - 70 percent.   What's that about?  It is mostly the wives 
breaking up this social institution?  "We've grown apart.",  the mommies
are saying as they toss the guys out.  

The question today seems not to be 'Should a couple stay together for the kids?'  
It's more like, 'Should a couple get married for any reason?'  Child support can 
be gotten with a dna test.  Do today's kids care if their parents are married?  
Is marriage 'just' a social habit that has outgrown it usefulness?  

I wouldn't get married today, not at 20, 40 or 60.  No way!  

I knew you would respond, John.  You actually seem to have some real social 
concern.  Where do the rest of you inspectors of pinheads stand?  Do you see 
any value in the social pattern of marriage?   


Marsha






On Jun 7, 2010, at 3:07 PM, John Carl wrote:

> Well I'll take a non-intellectual stab at your question, Marsha.  One of my
> favorite old couples in literature was Albert Durham and Hallie Ryder from a
> book I can't rememer the name of right now, about a coyote named Brand X.
> 
> Anyway, they were childhood sweethearts who'd grown up next door to one
> another in a small town in Kansas, got married and had an only son who got
> killed in WWII.  So they pulled up stakes, Albert sold his painting
> business, and they moved to an old mine in Arizona with a spring where every
> evening, all the animals would come and gather, and that was pretty much
> their social life.
> 
> There was an old cabin on the claim, that appealed to Albert's spartan
> tastes, whereas Hallie prefered the neat little travel trailer with
> everything in its place, so they basically moved apart and avoided conflict
> and thus in their old age, reverted back to their childhood pattern of being
> next door neighbors.
> 
> Their story always appealed to me, resonated with something that seems
> right, that marriage doesn't have to follow any particular pattern to have
> value.  So Al and Tipper grew apart?  So what?  I think that's perfectly
> natural and right.  Nobody said we have to turn into carbon copies of each
> other for the rest our lives, just because we partner up for raising kids
> and supporting one another.  What I don't get is why they have to divorce.
> I mean, what's that about?  The only reason they'd need to divorce is cuz
> somebody wants to what?  Get remarried and have more kids?  Find true love?
> Silly thing for an old fart to be chasing at this stage of his life.  Poor
> Al.  Hollywood musta gone to his head.
> 
> 
> John the anti-romantic
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:30 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> All the buzz on the radio, because of Tipper and Al Gore, is whether the
>> institution of marriage
>> is falling apart.   Because of the expanded longevity, can two people be
>> expected to commit
>> 'until death do us part'?  Fifty years with one man, or woman?  That is a
>> long time?  With the
>> divorce rate above 50%, should this social pattern survive, change,
>> dissolve?
>> 
>> What say you intellectuals about this social static pattern of value?
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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