[MD] The Greeks?

[Joseph Maurer]

On 6/6/10 9:03 PM, "Mary" <marysonthego at gmail.com> wrote:

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> The
> question, though, is if so many firmly believe IPOVs are 'symbol
> manipulation', then at least one person should be able to explain how that
> makes the Intellectual Level differ from the Social.  What 'purpose of its
> own' does symbol manipulation serve?  That, at least, is where I would like
> to start.
> 
> Best,
> Mary
 
Hi Mary and all,
 
Imho until evolution is tidied up a bit, it is impossible to put boundaries
on the levels.   I prefer to see evolution as levels in existence.   How
many different ways can a particle exist? For logic there has to be 1, a
starting point.  This is obscure since there are two ways to conceive of 1,
SQ defined and 1, undefined DQ the level of evolution, difference,.  Many
bad questions may be on topic.  ³What Œpurpose of its own¹ does symbol
manipulation serve?²
 
One is a metaphysical term.  Metaphysics creates logic undefined DQ, and
embraces logic defined SQ.  One is also an evolutionary term in that the
boundaries of the different levels in the evolved individual are undefined
DQ.  A logical conclusion has two sources, mathematics and evolution.
Pirsig saw that DQ undefined, SQ defined, was a more understandable division
than the subject/object of traditional metaphysics.  1 is both undefined and
defined.  Undefined 1 DQ as Matt described in his DQ, DQ DQ, etc. essay is
an answer to a questioned boundary.  I appreciate that he was describing, in
many ways, the undefined element in many questions like: ŒWhat is
evolution?¹
 
Joe