[MD] The Greeks?

[Mary]

Hi Andre,

> Andre:
> >  >  In the MOQ subjects are social and intellectual patterns of
> value,
> 
> >  objects are inorganic and organic patterns of values
> 
> > I do not quite follow what point you are trying to make
> [Mary Replies]
> Yes, this is true as far as it goes, but what does it imply?  Once
> you've
> accepted this premise, the next place it takes you is the me/not-me
> dichotomy.  This is equally true and cannot be otherwise if you accept
> the
> first.
> 
> Andre:
> You fundamentally misunderstand this MOQ premise: the me-not me
> dichotomy. It is fundamentally a SOM postulate and not the MOQ one. If
> you do not accept this we do not get off first base in understanding
> the MOQ nor you accepting the first base of the MOQ premise. (make up
> your mind!)
> 
[Mary Replies] 
Me/not-me is what the MoQ teaches us to recognize.  You have to recognize a
thing before you can attempt to overcome it.

> Andre previously:
> And what does it(i.e this intellectual pattern called MOQ)value? It
> >  values Truth as a species of Good.
> 
> Mary replies:
> I hope, by that, you do not mean what it appears to mean on the
> surface.
> That is, I sincerely hope you cannot define your terms.
> 
> Andre:
> And what is good Phaedrus,...?


[Mary Replies] 
You will know it when you see it.  The trick is being able to see it.

Best,
Mary