[MD] Transhumanism

[John Carl]

What's actually happening Ian, is that humans are being programmed by
machine-think into stupider and stupider states of consciousness which means
the Turing test actually will be feasible in about five years.

All it takes is a few more years of the Flintstones and Whoopi on Discovery
Channel, and we're there.

Cynical John

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Ian Glendinning
<ian.glendinning at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Krim,
>
> You mean Mark Germine (I interacted with him at the time and blogged) ?
>
> PS was Jurgen Schmidhuber at the event you attended ?
>
> My point ...
> Are you talking about machine intelligence overtaking humans ? or
> Are you talking about machine intelligence plus human intellect
> overtaking humans ?
>
> I remain sceptical about the former happening until AGI evolves
> through replication and social organization.
> The latter I just see as natural human evolution.
>
> Ian
>
>
> >
> > [Ian]
> > Explain the "Goertzel sent an emissary to the MoQ" remark?
> >
> > [Krimel]
> > Try searching Goertzel on the Moq.org site.
> >
> > [Ian]
> > I think I made my view on the "singularity" clear already ... AGI needs
> to
> > evolve through life and social before it reaches intellectual, so this is
> > much more than just processing power.
> >
> > [Krimel]
> > You have mentioned it before and it made no sense then either. Assuming
> such
> > a thing is on the horizon, its passage through the life and social has
> > already been made through us as its programmers. The most promising areas
> in
> > this field do seem to involve neural networks as arrays of pattern
> > recognizers. This does mimic life like systems both in structure and
> > function and as it is emerging from the activities of living beings. It
> is
> > not like you don't have a point; it just seems like a point without a
> point.
> >
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