[MD] Reading & Comprehension

[Krimel]

Marsha,
Thanks for your kind and understanding words. I must say I found them
surprising. It does look like I hit a nerve. I was aiming for something in
the frontal cortex but apparently hit the amygdala. I must have
overestimated the size of my intended target.
Krimel


Marsha said to dmb:
Am I missing something about being a grandparent? I really wish you'd
explain the behavior you expect from a grandparent, and how Krimel is
violating your expectations? Sounds like a static social pattern?  Marsha,
the generationally challenged


dmb says:
My expectations? Doesn't everyone expect grandparents to be mature? There is
a limit to how young a grandparent can be, see, and older people are
supposed to be more mature than younger people. But I think Krimel's style
is childish and painfully undignified. Go ahead, make a case that the
following is not childish... I also characterized it as "vague" and as
"snarky bullshit", so those descriptions are already taken. But if you have
a better word for this, please do tell. 


Krimel said to dmb:
...You make James sound like Pirsig's John the Baptist. It is positively
Orwellian. Do you realize this is what you are saying or does that claim of
independence really sound coherent to you? 

... Can you spell peer review?


... I never saw any of this as a problem until I started talking to you. 

... That is obvious but hardly from lack of trying on my part. You keep
talking about Bolte-Taylor. But what you say about her TED talk makes it
obvious you did not understand it at all. 

... You take this as new age talk when in fact it is derived from the
cognitive neuroscience and information processing. 
... I am speculating here a bit but much of the touchy feely gee whiz part
of talk; feeling connected to the universe that appeals to you so much may
have been the result of seizure or effects on her temporal lobes.
... In your Oxford talk you mention two books on the neuropsychology of zen.
I really laughed at that since when I pointed this research out to you in
the past you dismissed it reductionist and irrelevant ... 
...Your charge of "reductionism" is just your blanket term to justify not
doing your homework. You remind be of the drunk looking for his car keys
under a street lamp because there is light there to guide his search. 

... In isn't just your lack of depth in your own field that is a problem,
Dave. It is the narrowness of your vision and your absurd rationalization
for clinging to ignorance. 

... Whatever side of this debate you choose to be on you will not be taken
seriously if you dismiss the extensive research in the field as
"reductionism" or "SOM". .. Just your typical romantic dismissal. 
...  I am pretty sure he would take offense at your attempt to use his name
to justify ignoring the literature on neuroscience.  ... James would not
agree with your position either ... 

... few in the field take Freud's explanations particularly seriously
anymore and haven't for decades. I think that means you should study him
more. 

... Your idiosyncratic reaction to the findings of pretty much everyone who
has considered to matter for the past 50 years on the other hand might best
be explained by a Freudian although I would suggest medication.  

... you seem genetically incapable of straying outside your comfort zone.
But to paint this "romanticism" as somehow moral or philosophically
justifiable is just a form of self delusion.
 		 	   		  
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