[MD] Transhumanism

[John Carl]

Arlo,

I read your frustration.  I don't disagree with it.  In fact, I think its
good.  Frustration has one of two effects - it makes you give up, or it
makes you try harder.  Trying harder is usually what we do around here.  We
try harder to explain.  We try harder to properly analogize.  We try harder
to argue.

I believe tho that the "giving up" is essential to "getting it", but only
after a long process of trying harder and that having the author pop in and
qualify who is right and who is wrong would subvert the entire process.
 That's my intellectual assesment of the goals and means of MoQ Discuss.

So I guess I can't agree completely when you say:

[Arlo]
> I have no problem with koans, or any other artform that pushes us to
> glimpse
> the unseeable. My problem, again, is that Pirsig's refusal to clarify
> confusion
> about what he meant leaves the dialogue trapped and unable to evolve. We
> have
> the same arguments over and over.


I have a different perspective gleaned from my understanding of Scott Peck's
Community Building process - the role of the leader/scapegoat in community
formation.  Or as Pirsig points out in Lila, first they wanna build you up,
then they wanna blame you.  Who needs it?  Who is benefited by this
formulation.

I know what your problem is, you want it all crisply defined and
pre-packaged and fitted into text-book encapsulation so you can control it.

You evil acerdemic you.

:-)