[MD] Transhumanism

[MarshaV]

Hello Arlo,

I have my own point-of-view too.  The main point is:

	Quality(unpatterned experience/patterned experience.) 

After that every-thing else is collage.   



Marsha  





On Jun 19, 2010, at 11:50 AM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:

> [John]
> I know what your problem is, you want it all crisply defined and pre-packaged
> and fitted into text-book encapsulation so you can control it.
> 
> [Arlo]
> To clarify, I am talking about the MOQ, not Quality. And yes, I do think that
> evolution builds from a foundation of knowing what an author is saying. About
> Quality, no, I do not want it crisply defined or any such thing. But the
> metaphysics he is proposing, yes, I do think that its important to know if his
> ideas about an intellectual level refer to this or that. Precisely so
> disagreement and evolution can precede.
> 
> Example. I make no bones about my inclusion of certain other biological
> patterns at the social level other than "man". When I say this, I know that
> Pirsig said X, and I am saying Y, and so what I am saying is an expansion based
> on his ideas. I am NOT arguing that Pirsig really meant to include non-humans
> if you only ignore and revise some of his writings.
> 
> But that is precisely what IS happening in the majority of perennially
> unchanging exchanges here. The argument is seldom about whether or not Pirsig
> is right or wrong about something, but about what he meant. And he could end a
> lot of that, and allow the dialogue to move into where he is right and where he
> is wrong, etc.
> 
> But yeah, I suppose these are the thoughts of an evil acerdimic. :-)
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