[MD] The intellectual pattern of truth

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Ron prev:
> Bodvars explaination, his SOL explaination, well, doesent really
> explain anything, and does not expand the intellectual level.

You are correct about NOT expanding the intellectual level. The MOQ 
is all about stripping the term of all SOM content of  MIND - the said 
CPU - and re-fill it with its Q-content, the SOM itself.  

> He stated it offered nothing to the intellectual level. 

Who are you speaking about? Pirsig or yours sincerely? 

Ron:
YOu, please follow the conversation, and please start tagging your
own comments.

> He views MoQ in strict evolutionary terms, which is based on
> objective truth. In strict objective evolutionary heiarchal terms he
> makes his aguement that the intellectual level is the objective one
> contruction of reality then establishes that the MoQ IS the true
> realtity. He clearly defines the term metaphysics as synonomous with
> experience. Which then, if accepted, makes the combined statement
> that MoQ is experience and the intellectual construction of it is
> S/O ....I must ask Bodvar, what is the greater explainitory power? 
> Quantum physics has tread this ground for over 100 yrs with greater
> explaination depth and clarity than Bodvars weak and vague
> consructions.  Bodvar, to clear the air once and for all about SOL,
> what is it's greater explainitory power? What is it's practicle use?
> how will it improve our lives? 

Bodvar:
Improve lives sounds very NewAgeish. With me a
convincing explanation of existence goes a long way, and with the 
MOQ I found such an explanation for the first time. 

Ron:
But you render that explaination an s/o explaination, as any intellectual
explaination. This really doesent change anything then. 
The old explaination is just as convincing, even more so since
you yourself claim that it is the highest static pattern.
SOL allows only ONE explaination, the objective one.

There is no such thing as another explaination.

BOdvar:
You know 
humankind can endure almost everything if they know WHY and this is 
what the MOQ delivers through making SOM a static layer within its 
own universe.

Ron:
This violates your own SOL. WHY is an intellectual explaination
and all intellectual explainations are S/O.

Bodvar:
 SOM having emerged in historical times usurping the 
metaphysical throne from the previous level. This lifted a heavy and 
depressing burden from my shoulders, and what I can't allow the 
latter-day Pirsig and his "academical" cohort to destroy. The greatest 
metaphysical upheaval since Plato MUST not vanish.  

Ron:
Not only does your SOL not allow this, but you have yet to even explain
in any sort of detail HOW the SOM burden is lifted from ones shoulders
obviously you wish to unburden others so it must be your aim to improve
peoples lives, but you still are unable to explain this. SOL does not expand
the intellectual level, it keeps S/O central, dominant and fixed in our lives.  
I keep asking how this changes things from how they exist now and
you keep replying that it doesent change anything. 

Bodvar:
If you never having been oppressed by SOM's bleak view of ourselves 
as subjective prisoners inside our minds, never ever able to interact 
with reality because reality is DMB's "analogies", you are a lucky fellow 
and be my guest to write "interesting" posts, but this we witness here is 
a metaphysical upheaval of gigantic proportions. Quantum Physics 
pales compared to the Quality Metaphysics. 

Ron:
Dear Bodvar, if you can'nt explain it and it makes no difference then it has no value.
SOM's bleak view is that everything is explainable in objective terms even the subjective
prisoner. And by your own admission SOL does nothing to change that.

Dead on delivery.













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