[MD] The intellectual pattern of truth
skutvik at online.no
skutvik at online.no
Mon Jun 21 11:53:27 PDT 2010
Ron
Goodness knows why I bother with you and your endless objections
and questions that - regardless of how many times I explain - you
repeat in some new form.
20 June:
I had said that I don't seek any self-help manual, but an convincing
explanation of existence
> > Improve lives sounds very NewAgeish. With me a convincing explanation of
> > existence goes a long way, and with the MOQ I found such an explanation
> > for the first time.
Ron:
> But you render that explaination an s/o explaination, as any
> intellectual explaination.
If writing is "intellectual" how can anything conveyed by language be
non-intellectual? The 4th. static level is S/O, there you are right for
once - possibly inadvertently - but it has nothing specially to do with
language or thinking or what SOM calls "mental".
> This really doesent change anything then. The old explaination is just
> as convincing, even more so since you yourself claim that it is the
> highest static pattern.
It's hard to reach you. The old explanation was SOM i.e. the S/O
schism as IT REALLY IS, meaning that the distance between
ourselves as subject and objective reality wasn't just great, it was
UNBRIDGEABLE, two universes. Whatever philosophy, theory or
explanation there existed or would come to be would be "in here", the
real world "out there" would be as indifferent and unaffected as it - still
according to SOM - had been from eternity and would remain to
eternity.
Then this mysterious Robert Pirsig who said that SOM was a "fall-out"
of a greater reality and further pointed to its time of falling out, namely
with the Greeks. This was my "Road to Damascus" experience, finally
was the Mind/Matter spell broken and all those philosophers whose
books I had browsed without finding this so obvious and convincing
solution, they were at once midgets compared to Pirsig.
LILA and it partly abolishing the one and only SOLution I won't go into
here
> SOL allows only ONE explaination, the objective one.
SOL is the assertion that intellect is the subject/object distinction, this
so for the reason that that was Phaedrus' (of ZAMM) breathtaking
assertion. Regarding the MOQ it had to use SOM's own objective
strength (with which it had broken the social level's power) to make it
out of SOM and - after that - make both objective and subjective (the
distinction that is!!!!) into its own static intellectual level. It's an elegant,
seamless "inside out turn of the metaphysical sock". But you bugs who
never felt uncomfortable inside SOM's confinement - never knew it as
confinement - will of course bemoan the whole operation.
Please read before throwing yourself at the keyboard.
Bodvar
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