[MD] my question

[MarshaV]

Hi John,

My question wasn't about who gets to FEEL better because they are  
proven right, it was a question about functionality.  I do not see how the 
intellectual level being SOM, or not, matters functionally to whether or not 
one lives a better life?   To me, RMP is not teaching a dogma, but is 
demonstrating value awareness and suggesting that this awareness 
improves living.   If the Intellectual Level being SOM can be detrimental 
to living a better life, please tell me how?  

Thanks for responding John.  


Yours,

Marsha 





On Jun 21, 2010, at 5:37 PM, John Carl wrote:

> Well I'd say that's the essence of Ron's question of Bo, Marsha.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:13 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Greetings All,
>> 
>> Whether the Intellectual Level is SOM, or not, does it affect the question:
>> How can I live a better life?
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
> 
> And I can almost hear Bo's response, about his angst of unknowing relieved
> in 1978 by THIS VERY INSIGHT....
> 
> yeah, I've heard that a couple of times.
> 
> So, no.  I don't need to hear it again.
> 
> I do appreciate a direct approach to an old question, so thanks for asking.
> I myself have my own "opinion" which I've shared in the past, that the idea
> of making the 4th level "intellect" is ludicrous, so I've got my own
> label-attachment disorder.
> 
> I think the SOM level is an interesting phenomena that bridges the social
> third level and the symbolic/artistic/aesthetic/philosophical level of the
> 4th - shortened to "philosophical" in the true sense of the word - Wisdom
> married to Love.
> 
>  SOM is the kindergarten of this level.  The first bare perception of the
> self/other dichotomy  as significant.
> 
> I also concur with Pirsig that this level has been present in humanity since
> humanity has been human.
> 
> Over all advantage of my viewpoint?  Well it's a two-fer, it's logical and
> It makes me smile.  I smile to see Bo mired in the kindergarten of
> intellectualism, while bemoaning the fact of intellectualism.
> 
> I realize "makes me smile" isn't a serious answer and depends upon the same
> silly reasoning I gave to dave when he goes, "why even defend theism?
> What's in it for you?  Why do you like the idea of God?".
> 
> But I've got a longer answer to the question, if you want it.
> 
> Love with Wisdom, (or put it conventionally)
> 
> Philosophically yours,
> 
> John
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