[MD] my question

[MarshaV]

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> Marsha:
> My question wasn't about who gets to FEEL better because they are  
> proven right, it was a question about functionality.  I do not see how the 
> intellectual level being SOM, or not, matters functionally to whether or not 
> one lives a better life?  To me, RMP is not teaching a dogma, but is 
> demonstrating value awareness and suggesting that this awareness 
> improves living.  If the Intellectual Level being SOM can be detrimental 
> to living a better life, please tell me how?  
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> Ron:
> One, SOM does not value, "Value awareness"


Marsha:
Yes, I understand this, but in my scenario there is an emerging quality-level 
that is value awareness.  But my question has to do with daily living.  Is the 
functioning of your daily living processes affected by whether the Intellectual 
Level is SOM, or not?  How much awareness do you have during the day, and 
how much is done on automatic pilot?   




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> On Jun 21, 2010, at 5:37 PM, John Carl wrote:
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>> Well I'd say that's the essence of Ron's question of Bo, Marsha.
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>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:13 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>> Greetings All,
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>>> Whether the Intellectual Level is SOM, or not, does it affect the question:
>>> How can I live a better life?
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>>> Thoughts?
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>> And I can almost hear Bo's response, about his angst of unknowing relieved
>> in 1978 by THIS VERY INSIGHT....
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>> yeah, I've heard that a couple of times.
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>> So, no.  I don't need to hear it again.
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>> I do appreciate a direct approach to an old question, so thanks for asking.
>> I myself have my own "opinion" which I've shared in the past, that the idea
>> of making the 4th level "intellect" is ludicrous, so I've got my own
>> label-attachment disorder.
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>> I think the SOM level is an interesting phenomena that bridges the social
>> third level and the symbolic/artistic/aesthetic/philosophical level of the
>> 4th - shortened to "philosophical" in the true sense of the word - Wisdom
>> married to Love.
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>>   SOM is the kindergarten of this level.  The first bare perception of the
>> self/other dichotomy  as significant.
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>> I also concur with Pirsig that this level has been present in humanity since
>> humanity has been human.
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>> Over all advantage of my viewpoint?  Well it's a two-fer, it's logical and
>> It makes me smile.  I smile to see Bo mired in the kindergarten of
>> intellectualism, while bemoaning the fact of intellectualism.
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>> I realize "makes me smile" isn't a serious answer and depends upon the same
>> silly reasoning I gave to dave when he goes, "why even defend theism?
>> What's in it for you?  Why do you like the idea of God?".
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>> But I've got a longer answer to the question, if you want it.
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>> Love with Wisdom, (or put it conventionally)
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>> Philosophically yours,
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>> John
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