[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics

[skutvik at online.no]

Hi Platt 
I had not followed your debate with Arlo this far before my input, but 
yours have been a great show with your salient quotes and keen 
memory of where to find them. It's plain that Pirsig most often 
regarded SOM as intellect - all of it every last bit - but true to tradition 
left room for dissent.  Arlo & Co. cling to the Lila's Child annotation 
about "undermining the MOQ" but leaves out Pirsig's own 
development since that which ended with the PT letter where he says 
that an intellectual level before the Greeks (meaning SOM in a MOQ 
context) renders it useless, but there too left room . Also thanks for not 
buying the BoMOQ nonsense, it's MOQ's heart and soul we fight for ... 
lest the gang of four renders it a travesty. 

Bodvar
















      















On 21 Jun 2010 at 22:08, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:

> On 21 Jun 2010 at 20:29, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:
> 
> > [Platt]
> > Check the full quote: "Now that intellect was in command of society
> > for the first time in history, was this the intellectual pattern it
> > was going to run society with?" (Lila, 22) Note "intellect" in
> > command of society, i.e., the intellectual level. One, not many.
> > 
> > [Arlo]
> > Yes, check the full quote. "was this [SOM] the intellectual pattern
> > it was going to run with". Thanks for proving my point. SOM is one
> > particular intellectual pattern.
> 
> {Platt]
> On the contrary, the quote proves my point that the SOM intellectual
> level is "in command of" society. The higher levels dominant the
> lower. 
> 
> > [Platt]
> > I do claim and provided evidence from his own words, which you
> > ignored. 
> > 
> > [Arlo]
> > Pirsig has denied this is his meaning. Outright. You can "provide
> > evidence", but to do so you have to ignore what Pirsig himself is
> > telling you he meant. 
> 
> [Platt] Nonsense. I have quoted Pirsig himself. 
> 
> > 
> > [Platt]
> > "Honesty" is not the issue. The distinction and significance of the
> > MOQ is.  
> > 
> > [Arlo]
> > And Bo's MOQ and Pirsig's MOQ are distinct.
> 
> [Platt] "Distinction" as I used it means "superiority."
> 
> Nothing to be gained from further debate. 
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