[MD] DQ: to define or undefine

[Krimel]

John,
I will just be addressing the points here I think actually call for comment
I will snip lots of your commentary and review.
Krimel

[John]
Not to me, it doesn't.  Because DQ generates sq, it's really a monism that
has a static aspect and a dynamic aspect.  These aren't opposite, they are
um... a descending scale of realization.

[Krimel]
DQ does not generate SQ. Quality generates both. Quality is "...a monism
that
has a static aspect and a dynamic aspect."

John:
Phew Krimel!  You skewer the oppositional view well.  But I don't find you
addressing the deeper monism at all.

[Krimel]
Quality is the monism and I do address. I will happily address it all day
long if you like but when I do I will be addressing in terms of its static
and dynamic aspects.

[John]
I say:

DQ is that definitionaly undefined aspect of Quality which is realized in
experience and when defined intellectualy becomes sq.

[Krimel]
Quality is undefined. SQ and DQ are "defined" in terms of one another.

[John]
All the MoQ is sq about DQ

[Krimel]
Quality might be SQ about DQ if you like, but the MoQ is about Quality. Read
the long form of the name and you will see what I mean.

[John]
Ok, I will.  I pick the existentialist flavor of the month:   Life is sq in
process of defining DQ.

You gotta problem with that?

[Krimel]
Life does not require definition. Most life forms don't use them at all.
Human life seems to demand extracting meaning from experience. But the best
that could be made of what you say in terms of human life is the exact
opposite. Life is DQ in the process of defining SQ. 

[John]
I really stopped here Krimel.  I think you're wrong.  But the reason I think
you're wrong has to do with more complicated reasoning than I can just
flippantly toss off at the moment.

[Krimel]
Yeah, there was a lot of vague flailing about here in your post. Give it
some thought. If you think it's all wrong you ought to be able to figure out
why.

[John]
For another, I have a problem with "orienting"

[Krimel]
It is a technical term in psychology. So is habituation. Look them up.

[John]
Wrong again.  Static can refer to predictable change.  Dynamic means more
than change.  It means unexpected change.

[Krimel]
Change always carries with it the unexpected. Read Pirsig's account of Hume.