[MD] Quality/Tao

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Dan and Dave

24 Jun. 

Dan:
> > The tao is called the way but it isn't a place or a destination. The
> > tao is experience. It is constantly defined yet inexhaustible. All
> > that is, was, and will be springs forth from it and trickles back to
> > it. Dynamic Quality is synonymous with the tao. It is not active yet
> > it never rests. It is not static yet it may be defined by that very
> > nature. Dynamic Quality is not this, not that.
 
> dmb says:
> Yea, I like yours better, Dan. I don't think DQ ought to be defined as
> active even within the thought system we call the MOQ. Within the
> metaphysical system "DQ" is defined as undefinable and it is explained
> that it can't be defined because the term refers to experience prior
> to any conceptualizations. Besides that, Yin and Yang are active and
> passive, not active and static. As one half of a dualistic
> conceptualization, they're both static.

But for Goodness sake  The MOQ does say that there is a Dynamic 
Quality as dynamic as dynamic comes, so why postulate another still 
more dynamic one that the first variety is a "static" fall-out from. Are 
there some serious drawbacks from saying that the MOQ describes 
the Quality Reality?  Or is it - what I strongly suspect - that you see the 
DQ/SQ partitioning taking place in the subjective mind of Man and is 
thus forced to postulate a Quality independent of Man's mind: an 
"objective" one? The MOQ is a break with SOM so why let it return 
under a thin "dynamic/static" guise?    

Bodvar   




























> 
> I think it works quite well to think of DQ itself as "the way". If
> putting these concepts to work in actual experience means following
> DQ, as I think is what it means, then "the way" is not something that
> we can know in advance or measure in anyway. It's just this vague
> sense of what's right and what's not. It doesn't even matter if you're
> fighting in a war or writing poetry. It just means NOT painting by
> numbers but by an active engagement and an openness and sensitivity to
> what's happening as it happens. 
> 
> There is good example from the first few pages of a book called "How
> We Decide". A pro quarterback has learned all the plays and signals
> and practiced them over and over plus he has a lot of experience with
> the game in general, right? Been playing all his life and he's getting
> the big bucks cause very few are better at it than she is. So the play
> is called, the ball is snapped and giant dudes are running around
> everywhere, with all the biggest ones on the other team doing their
> best to murder him. He's just got a few seconds to find an open
> receiver. There's no way in hell she has time to calculate or
> rationally decide which option is best. He's not playing chess and
> neither are the 300 pound linebackers who are coming down on him any
> second now. All he can do is scan the field and when he gets a good
> feeling - I shit you not - a GOOD FEELING, he let's her fly. That
> decision process works. If it didn't, he'd wouldn't be making millions
> of dollars for his ability to "decide" o
>  n the basis of a feeling. It feels right, he acts on it and it very
>  quickly proves to have been right and yet there was no time to think
>  about it. In a very real sense, she was just following the way. This
>  isn't magic. It's not a miracle. It's just being groovy, in the flow,
>  and that can't happen without the static patterns she spent so many
>  years mastering. Same with motorcycle repair or metaphysics. DQ does
>  not magically turn hacks and amateurs into skilled professionals. It
>  has to be applied to whatever you're already pretty good at, you
>  know?
> 
> You're a really great writer, Dan. Even the short stuff is elegant and
> powerful. You rock.
> 
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