[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics

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Mary

24 June

Mary said:
> > > Agree with that!  Changing one intellectual construction for
> > > another is to pay lip service.  Doesn't change a thing.

Bo commented: 
> > Hmm, had I just been sure what this means. At least, the "orthodox"
> > intellectual level is much like SOM's MIND and consequently
> > everything becomes "mind-intellectual constructions". But MOQ's 4th.
> > level as SOM is a QUALITY construction!
 
Mary explains: 
> I took Marsha's statement to be along the lines of: just making the
> _intellectual_ switch from calling things subjects and objects to
> calling them patterns of value is still to replace one SOMish type
> analogy with another.  

SOM says that there is an objective world "out there" that we "in here" 
only can theorize about. Further,  the in-here theories are supposed to 
be "intellectual" thus intellect and  thinking  has become synonymous. 

Now along comes the MOQ and says that the said "in here/ out there" 
dichotomy is NOT reality's ground, but the mere static intellectual level 
of the real ground - the DQ/SQ.configuration This INVERSION cannot 
be called "intellectual" because the very term has changed 
fundamentally.  

> It's easy to _intellectually_ call things patterns of value without
> having any appreciation for how that might differ from calling those
> same things subjects and objects. 

If you drop "intellectual" we agree. The switch from SOM to MOQ is 
what Pirsig tries to convey by the inside-out turn of a smelly sock 
metaphor. The bugs inside are on the same turf, yet in a different 
universe and in the Q-universe thinking isn't an intellectual activity, 
rather a biological capacity that can be employed by all levels.

Bodvar.