[MD] DQ: to define or undefine

[John Carl]

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 9:08 AM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>wrote:

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> Static means stable, not forever frozen.
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  In a sense, its  highly dynamic: the seasons shift, the rivers to rise
with the rains, the snow  melts from the mountains, the leaves  fall and
then bud again.  Year in, year out the seasons repeat this predictable
dance.  Is this dynamic or static?  I'd call that static.  Now when an
asteroid hits the earth, and changes all the patterns, that's what I'd call
dynamic.  Dynamic doesn't mean simply change, as dave points out, everything
everywhere is a constant state of flux and change.  But dynamic means
something different than the expected.  It's an intellectual definition of
that which falls outside the boundaries of intellectual foresight and
control.

 It all depends upon which frame of reference you choose.  Like Quantum
Mechanics, Krimel.  You believe in QM, don't you?  What are you if you don't
believe in QM, some kind of Nazi?



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> That's about right but it's also true that the romantic style is a style of
> thought. He characterizes Plato and Aristotle as romantic and classic, for
> example. The romantic style in not any less intellectual and so we're
> talking about static patterns either way. That's why DQ and romantic quality
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John:

I  equate the romantic with the mythos and the  classic with the logos.
The mythos ties in to our emotional romantic sensibility and the logos with
our analytic and intellectual side of experience.  I certainly agree that DQ
and romantic quality are not the same.  The normal definition of intellect,
I see as more on that classic/logos side of human experience, which is why I
don't like the label of "intellect" for the 4th level of being.

But other than that semantic quibble of the connotations of intellect, I
agree with dave.

Which is a relief; I don't have to spend excessive time making my own point
on this to Krimel.  I can just point here and go, "yeah."


dmb:


Thanks. This conversation seems for real. I sincerely appreciate that.
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Everybody appreciates real conversation.  Its a quality experience.

John