[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics

[MarshaV]

On Jun 27, 2010, at 11:48 AM, John Carl wrote:

> Marsha and Platt,
> 
> An answer to the challenge question put to Andre:
> 
> [Platt}
> 
>> Yes, Andre. Let's see you demonstrate an intellectual pattern that isn't
>> based
>> on the subject/object division. I'm all tingly with anticipation.
>> 
>> 
> Zen and Art and sometimes Motorcycle Maintenance.

I've never made sense to your understanding of the levels 
which seem unique to you.   Motorcycle maintenance requires, 
more than anything else, forgetting intellectual patterns and
using mindfulness.    But I've never performed motorcycle 
maintenance; maybe as Dan.      


> Zen is a high quality intellectual pattern, evolved for the very purpose of
> transcending SOM.

The word Zen in your sentence is too loosey-goosey abstract to determine
what type of a pattern it is.  If you mean Zen as mediation, it would be 
non-intellectual.   Deciding my purpose is to become a cat, doesn't make 
my experience/patterns feline.  Deciding my purpose is to become a saint 
doesn't make my experience/patterns saintly.  And deciding my purpose
is to become enlightened doesn't make my experience/patterns enlightened.  


> The highest Art is a high quality intellectual endeavor, wherein the
> subject/object barrier blurs and disappears.

As RMP said art is an endeavor comprised of patterns from all levels.    

'HIghest Art', as you've used it is a reified concept.   Even 'intellectual 
endeavor' is a reified concept.  No evidence and no demonstration.  


 
> Horse is right on in his assesment of SOL as ego-driven, because it is
> always the fear of subjective death that drives the assertion of objective
> primacy.

I do not think Horse is right, although, like everyone else I appreciate the 
work he puts into the MD. 


Marsha
 
 
 



 
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