[MD] Essentials for target practice

[Joe]

Hi Ham and All,

A metaphysics is a system of logic.  Pirsig has a new insight into logic.

SOM suggested that logic had to include an acceptance of a division in 
existence
between subjective existence and objective existence.  This is very clumsy 
as subjective
existence is unverifable by an outside party and any decision following a 
dialog between
people wishing to communicate is guesswork.  In the logic of mathematics 
there is no
S only O.  In mathematics, evolution is denied unless you accept a dual 
basis for logic: DQ/SQ.
When 1 is defined logic is impeccable.  When 1 is undefned, logic looks to 
evolution for
indefineable individuation.  Mathematics is simply another tool.

DQ/SQ, Persig declares DQ is not unverifiable by another, it is simply 
undefined.  Sameness
in experience on a mataphysical level is a common thread between people. 
The
metaphysical argument does not depend on guesswork about existence SOM, but 
rather
a clarification of experience, MOQ.  To verify an individuals' experience in 
MOQ everyone
has to go through the same process of clarifying what is undefined in their 
experience.
Pirsig shifted the burden  from verifying logic from a "he says she says" 
situation to an
agreement about levels in existence, evolution

In your FUNDAMENTAL TENETS OF ESSENTIALISM: you have to rely on
logic for veracity with no rules extablished.  Opinion rules.  Who can doubt 
your experience?

My hope for logic follows DQ/SQ in evolution!

Joe

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ham Priday" <hampday1 at verizon.net>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Essentials for target practice


> MOQers All --
>
>
> As defining the MOQ fundamentals appears to be the hottest game on MD 
> currently, this may be a good time to present some of my own for your 
> consideration.  Following Platt's example (thought of the day, etc.), I've 
> come up with a dozen maxims or tenets that are central to the Philosophy 
> of Essence.  I'm interested in seeing which of them you folks find 
> acceptable or unacceptable, and how unanimous your reactions are.  (This 
> will also help me determine whether continued participation in this forum 
> is worth your time or mine.)
>
> In developing this "12-point manifesto", I've deliberately avoided the 
> "special terms" indigenous to both philosophies.  Any tenet, however, may 
> be regarded as "controversial" in some way.
>
> Feel free to "fire away".  I'll keep score.
>
>
> FUNDAMENTAL TENETS OF ESSENTIALISM:
>
> 1)  Nothing comes from nothingness.
>
> 2)  Nothing creates itself (i.e., brings itself into existence)..
>
> 3)  Existence is the appearance of differentiated otherness.
>
> 4)  All appearance--including divisions, relations, and movement--is the 
> affect of an uncreated source.
>
> 5)  The primary difference is the provisional separation of proprietary 
> sensibility from the
>     undivided source.
>
> 6)  Life is an individual experience the essence of which is 
> value-sensibility.
>
> 7)  Cognizant awareness, feeling, knowledge, interpretation, intellection, 
> and realization are proprietary to the individual.
>
> 8)  Experience is the objective representation of value realized.
>
> 9)  Unrealized value does not exist.
>
> 10)  Man is a "free agent" in that he has the innate capacity to act in 
> accordance with his                 proprietary value orientation.
>
> 11)  All truth is relative.  Access to "absolute truth" is inimical to 
> individual freedom.
>
> 12)  Wisdom is not factual knowledge but the ability to realize the value 
> of experience.
>
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>
> Thanks for responding.
>
> --Ham
>
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