[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics

[Mary]

Hello Horse, Arlo, Bo, and all,

 [Horse]
> Can't see that happening any time soon Arlo - this is an ego thing with
> Bo. Until he gets his ego under control we'll continue to get the same
> old drivel that we've been getting for some time.


[Mary Replies] 
Is this [questioning a person's motivations] an updated variation on the
theme that the first person to mention the Nazi's has lost the argument?
Seems like it.

[Horse]
> Even as an alternative to Pirsigs MoQ the SOL sucks. 

[Mary Replies] 
Though in disagreement with this, you nevertheless have the right to say so.

[Horse]
But with so much
> time and ego invested in SOL Bo will not let go of it.
> However, one thing I am going to start insisting upon is that Bo
> refrains from saying that Pirsig supports the SOL as this is completely
> false and to continue doing so is not only wrong but is intellectually
> dishonest. Pirsig has stated quite clearly that the he does not
> consider
> SOL/SOM as Quality Intellect etc. as part of the MoQ and has also
> stated
> that it undermines the MoQ.
> So Bo if you are reading this then please take note of the above.
> Pirsig
> does not support your interpretation of the MoQ and you should not try
> and make out that he does.
> 
[Mary Replies] 
It is one thing to moderate a conversation and quite another to censor one,
particularly when the objection is prefaced by casting aspersions on
motivations about which one can only speculate.  We can hurl quotes at one
another all day without reaching consensus as to exactly what Pirsig meant
by what he said.  This is likely purposeful.  Pirsig is averse to papal
bulls.  Have you given consideration as to why?

The remainder of this is the equivalent of gossip.

Best,
Mary
> 
> Horse
> 
> 
> On 26/06/2010 22:23, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:
> > [Horse]
> > Lovely - I missed that little gem. Cheers Krim. Is this an updated
> variation on
> > the theme that the first person to mention the Nazi's has lost the
> argument.
> > Seems like it.
> >
> > [Arlo]
> > Yeah, but what did you expect? Bo's understand of Pirsig has always
> been
> > lacking in this regard, the SOL is about as unimportant and
> unimpressive a
> > revision of Pirsig's works as I've seen here. The few who cling to it
> do so out
> > of an array of needing to demonize that awful "interlict". And I do
> not expect
> > that to change. So while Bo preaches to the three or four people who
> still take
> > his revisions seriously, there is little to do or say but continue to
> insist
> > that he take his argument to the only valid ground it has- as an
> alternative to
> > Pirsig's MOQ.