[MD] St. Bodvar's perplexion

[Ian Glendinning]

Hi DMB, don't believe I had
Perhaps if I'd put the word logical in front of the word arguments -
or used one of your current favourite phrases like "reductionist
explanation" - I might have sounded less stupid DMB. I live in hope
;-)

Of course in a rounded sense his rhetoric must "comport" with is ideas
... in the round ... no better evidence as you say. But "evidence" in
rhetoric is not the same as "proof" in logic - slicing and dicing
individual phrases as proof of specific points is .... err
reductionist, even exigenetic ... the scary trend to treat Bob's every
word as "the word".

Understanding all his words, passages in context, as opposed to
hanging on every (individual) word or phrase in selective and
definitive isolation. Of course understanding his ideas expressed in
their context doesn't mean we can't develop a better understanding of
better evolved ideas in our context, another 20 years on.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:11 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Ian said:
> All this quoting of Pirsig's rhetoric as part of arguments (other than arguments about what he said, clearly) is a really scary trend - he's not some authoritative guru on whose every word we hang.
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> dmb says:
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> Quoting Pirsig to defend Pirsig's ideas is not to argue from authority. There is no better evidence for Pirsig's view. To suggest otherwise is just foolish. Nothing else could possibly count better as evidence.
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> Where did you ever get such a weird idea? The construe the MOQ in a way that does not comport with Pirsig's words is thee most obvious way to be wrong about the MOQ. And that's exactly what Bo and Marsha do. They claim this is some kind of freedom but it's just intellectual decadence. It's immoral and, to be perfectly frank, it's also kinda stupid.
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