[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Jun 28 11:34:12 PDT 2010


On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:00 PM, MarshaV wrote:

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> On Jun 28, 2010, at 11:45 AM, craigerb at comcast.net wrote:
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>> [Marsha]
>>> RMP is vey, very clear where he writes:
>> "While sustaining biological and social patterns
>> Kill all intellectual patterns.
>> Kill them completely
>> And then follow Dynamic Quality
>> And morality will be served."
>> (LILA, Chapter 32)
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>> What is clear is that RMP means for us to abandon preconceived notions
>> and examine our ideas anew. He does not mean for us to forego
>> intellectual patterns forever. (He advocates intellectual level control
>> over the social level.)
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> Craig,
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> I think you are correct, and I do agree.  But there is 
> something to be gained by killing those intellectual 
> patterns for a while.  There is an important comparison 
> to be realized:  unpatterned/patterned.  It's not what 
> you think.    
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> Marsha 
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>> [Arlo previously]
>>> What about the social pattern of slavery?
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>> [Marsha]
>>> This is not a now event.
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>> O if only this were true. Slavery is still a problem (e.g., child slaves,
>> sex slaves, slavery between tribes/religions.)
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>> "Remember that the central reality of the 
>> MOQ is not an object or a subject or anything else."
>> (RMP, notes 132, 133 in LC)
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>> Pirsig here refers to Quality (= "the central reality of the 
>> MOQ"), not the MoQ itself.
>> Craig    
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