[MD] The Quality/MOQ meta-metaphysics

Arlo Bensinger ajb102 at psu.edu
Tue Jun 29 13:59:28 PDT 2010


[Platt]
Such stupidity. As if a ringing bell is a symbol, and as if a dog 
knows a symbol from what it refers to.

[Arlo]
A ringing bell most definitely is a symbol the dog ascribes meaning. 
And I am certain the dog can distinguish between the sound and the 
food (e.g.) that is its ascribed meaning. (Or maybe you save money by 
just ringing a bell and not feeding the dog, since the dog will think 
it has eaten, being unable to distinguish the ringing from the eating).

Nonwithstanding certain neuropathologies, dogs are well aware of what 
is "them" and what is "not them", and they evidence quite profoundly 
the ability to associate symbols with very nuanced meanings.

Of course, none of this makes them "within SOM" (I'll preserve your 
horrible rhetoric here).

Since you missed the remediation from the last email, I'll repost it 
in hopes I can break through your veil of willful ignorance.

SOM = a very particular metaphysical position that posits that 
"subjects" and "objects" are the PRIMARY division of "reality".

SOM has NOTHING to do with the conventional use of the terms 
"subject" and "object" in language, and it has NOTHING to do with 
"ascribing meaning to a symbol" (something my dog does every day).

Again, this gross confusion is baffling, because if it is not a case 
of willful ignorance, I can't imagine a reason why it persists.




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