[MD] MD Chaos and its role in Evolution

[David M]

Hi Case

I sympathise with this view of DQ but would
add that the levels are created because some quality choices
are made about what ceases to be poissible and becomes actual.
This is what human beings do and I think is not confined to them
in nature.

DM


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Case" <Case at ispots.com>
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Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] MD Chaos and its role in Evolution


> DM
> I do not think this limitation of value would be acceptable to what the 
> MOQ
> is saying. Do you disagree with the MOQ here?
>
> [Case]
> I don't think I disagree with the MoQ in this particular respect. Value,
> while equated by Pirsig with Quality, really seems to me to be about the
> perception of Quality. I do however strongly disagree with the commonly 
> held
> notion among MoQers that DQ is Good. In my view DQ is good sometimes and 
> bad
> sometimes. Sunny weather in the South is Good. Hurricanes are Bad. This is
> why I view Quality as the realm of what's possible or Chance.
>
>> |DM
>> Is order an accident? Is there no value to order?
>>
>>
>> [Case]
>> Hmmm, order is an accident, yes. But it is inevitable. Order must occur 
>> in
>> chaos.
>>
>> But since Chaos seems to have as may negative connotations as Quality has
>> positive ones; I am willing to call it Chance.
>>
>> Value arises in the realtionship between the observer and observed.
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